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Biggest problem with the F-22 is that you can't operate it from a carrier. Before you think I've gone off the deep end let me explain. In my opinion the only way that we will go up against China is if they invade Taiwan. If that happens where are we going to operate these F-22s out of? They are going to require fairly complex maintaince and a large infrastructure in order to operate them. As they are single seat aircraft pilot endurance is going to play a factor. Japan would probably be too far away and there is no guarentee that anybody else is going to let us operate out of their country, lest they become a target of the Chinese. Lets face it the F-22 was designed to operate in the old Cold War, not the current political and diplomatic situation.
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Change out the crane to one that can move entire VLS cells, or simply one weapon at a time. I prefer entire cells, with plug in connections (yes, a bit of engineering, but doable. Lots of room for guns, very fast ship.
Either this, or something like her and her sisters. The ship MUST have adequate generating capacity, as there will be significant loads. Lots of elevators, lots of electronics, lots of pumps.
Boats, still stoking the fires!

Convert it to gas turbines and add extra generating power for the railguns that are coming?
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Short of taking an old LHA and bolting some MLRS launchers on the front of the flight deck and using the back for RPV's anything you try to do these days is going to cost at least $2 billion.
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There is a series of books by David Drake the are about a futuristic mercenary outfit called Hammer's Slammers. In this book the tanks are hovercraft, but they have an automatic self-defense system that is patterned after the Claymore mine. The Trophy system is virtually identicle to this system.
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Check out this video I found on Fox News.
It is in the "Only on Fox " section and is titled "Use of Force". It won't let me provide a link.
If this is for real RPG's and anti-tank missiles just went the way of the Dodo.

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They may have the hulls in 3 to 5 years but I think that it is going to be quite a bit longer before they can operate them at their full capability.
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Remember that Airbus airliner houling mail into Bagdad two years ago? A SA-14 took out part of the wing and destroyed all three hydrolic systems. Pilots landed by using their two engines to control all movements. They were VERY lucky! Apparently a second SA-7 fired at the same plane missed.
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Makes me glad they stopped flying DC-10's. Remember Sioux City, Iowa in the late 80's? The tail engine failed and cut the hydraulic lines.
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There's more than a few ex-Navy personnel working for my shipyard. One of them is my night shift super, who was a sonar tech. We were shooting the breeze one night, and I was telling them about Harpoon. I told him that I had a pretty good idea how sonar worked, and how to game it. I then explained the cone thingmie to him, and almost crapped his pants. He was jumping up and down saying over and over that this stuff was all classified, he was going to jail, I was going to jail, how the hell could we do something like this. I explained to him that no, nothing Harpoon did was classified, it was all open source, and I did NOT want to know anything classified. He was still freaked that I understood anything like this


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When I was in school at NAS North Island in the 80's I shared a room with a couple of guys who were in the AW school. Popular Science had just came out with an article about Soviet Submarines. I asked one of the guys if there was anything that he could tell me about the ALFA, the titanium hulled sub? They went ballistic, they actually called their training officer and he came over wanting to know where I had found this information. I handed him the magazine and his eyes bulged. The school had the majority of the information in the article listed as classified.

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I always thought if the AF really junked these fine birds the USMC should pick em up. Gents, this is a weapon system a Marine can love. It provides CAS. It's tough. It's easy to fix. There's very few widgets for a Marine to screw up. It's cheap. No, "my engines hurt because they have dust in em." No, "we need 50 people to keep this queen up in the air." AND! It's kills.... really.... really well! One of the few AF pieces of gear that actually makes my heart beat quicker. Now... if only it could VTOL or STOL it would be PERFECT! This is a serious-if unglamourous-piece of ass kicking war gear. (PS, I like it more because it is unglamourous.) How does the A-10 stack up against the Frogfoot?
That's not a bad idea. Take some of the S-3 maintance people and retrain them on the A-10. Shouldn't be too hard both planes have basically the same engine and hydraulic systems. A-10's can be shipped in a box configuration with the wings and horizontal stabilizer removed and have both reinstalled in the field.
I wonder if a CH-53E could lift an A-10 on a sling? Put a dozen boxed A-10s on an LHA, assemble them and have a CH-53 fly them to the new airfield. Might even be able to deck run one.
I know that they can fly there themselves, but this would be a nice option to have if you think like a Marine.
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I just think that there is something definitely wrong when you replace a 'cat with a bug. First Hornet I ever saw shot off of a ship went swimming. I've never liked the Hornet since. One of the big attractions the Navy has to the Hornet is the computer that tells maintainers what is wrong with the aircraft. The Navy says that it saves them man-hours in maintaince. One question "What if that computer is broke?".

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Lockheed's Skunk works is developing an UAV that can be launched and recovered by Ohio class missile subs. It is supposed to be able to be launched from a depth of 150 ft. When its mission is complete the UAV returns to a designated loaction where it is supposed to be recovered by a robot and brought back to the sub.
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The F-22: not what we were hoping for
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There is no guarentee that we are going to be able to base out of any of the areas that you mention. The F-22 needs a more complex support structure than anything we have now. The majority of maintaince is going to be performed by civilian contractors, not Air Force personel. They no longer train people to fix aircraft, they train them to replace components. It is no longer a case of grabbing a piece of tubing and some fittings and fabricating a hydraulic line. All of these parts are pre-made and have to be supplied to the people fixing the aircraft. Does the F-22 even have a rough field capability?