[Russian Navy sunk?]

Did you see that Delta in Drydock? 69 03'35.47" 33 12'15.59"

[ManPAD Effectiveness]

The may or may not bring them down. Depends where and how the plane is damaged. A Soviet IL-76 was confirmed downed by a stinger during the Soviet Afgan war and I think a British C-130 was brought down in Iraq by a SA-7 or 14 (although some accounts claim an RPG would you believe). At the same time there have been many incidents where the aircraft have survived (particularly with SA-7 etc)The small warheads are big enough to sever fuel lines, hydraulic lines or cause a catastrophic loss but not necessarily a 100 percent thing.

Remember that Airbus airliner houling mail into Bagdad two years ago? A SA-14 took out part of the wing and destroyed all three hydrolic systems. Pilots landed by using their two engines to control all movements. They were VERY lucky! Apparently a second SA-7 fired at the same plane missed.

Freek