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Since the gouge is that he clipped the top of a tree, I suspect pilot error. Angels aviators have a hard deck, and I suspect the hard deck (when not over the airfield) was a good bit higher than the tree. Remember, too, that when coming out of a dive, if you don't start your pullup in time, all the smash in the world won't save you from inertia and gravity.
Byron
Bummer man.
The Angel's death even became topic of our Sunday School class discussion.Will the Blue Angel's continue their season?
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I made a post on the HULL offering a PDF file on USN ship designators because I can't transfer the files here. I hope I didn't disturb the cosmic balance and draw everyone away somehow.
Buddha
Dang, Byron!

Not even a new thread on that Blue Angel that's gone flyin' with the angels.
Was it pilot error or mechanical problems?

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Question:
If the radar was clearly ripped of the LaSalle prior to the SINKEX, what did the HARMs lock on to?

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I though this was interesting. From Strategypage.com
HUD Begins to Fade AwayApril 12, 2007: The U.S. F-35 fighter-bomber will be the first fighter in a long time to lack a HUD (head-up display). The HUD will still be present, but as part of the Helmet Mounted Display System (HMDS). In other words, the HUD information will be displayed on the inside of the pilots visor, while still enabling the pilot to see through the visor. This type of helmet visor has been around for over a decade, but concentrated on allowing the pilot to control weapons by just looking at targets, and pressing the "fire" button at the right time. Now, the display technology inside the helmet has reached the point where it can handle the HUD stuff as well. The weight of these HMDS systems has come down as well, making it easier to wear them for long periods of time.
The HUD was a big innovation for fighters, as it made it possible for the pilot to spend more time with his head up, keeping an eye on the sky, or an ongoing battle. The military HUD has been around for half a century, but appears set to disappear as more pilots shift to HMDS.
Over the last few years, the visor displays have added the display of critical flight and navigation information. This, in addition to the basic function of enabling the pilot to turn his head, get an enemy aircraft into the crosshairs displayed on the visor, and fire a missile that will promptly go after target the pilot was looking at.
These helmet displays allow the pilot look around more often without having to look down at cockpit displays, or straight ahead at a HUD (Head Up Display.) This kind of freedom gives an experienced pilot an extra edge in finding enemy aircraft or targets, and maneuvering to get into a better position for attacks. It's also useful for air to ground attacks.
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3 AGM-84E SLAM-ER
4 AGM-84D Harpoon
4 GBU-16 (Mk83) Paveway II
6 AGM-65E Maverick (Laser Guided)
6 AGM-114 Hellfire
4 Mk82 Iron Bombs
3 AGM-88 HARMS
2 RGM-84D Harpoons
Approximately 750 rounds of .50Cal (mixed bag of Tracer and HE)
Approximately 1800 rounds of 20mm (mixed bag of Tracer and HEI)
Approximately 30 rounds of 5in/54cal rounds from surface ships (AP and HE)
I wonder how that compares to the HC ponts model for sinking that class ship?

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Sorry double post.
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So tell me...how much of the above explanations do you think are pure BS?
Boats
Off hand, I don't see why steel grade would be a big enough deal to double the cost of the ship. IIRC, there hasn't been any procument difficulties with the Virginas, and I can't believe that LCS would need higher strength steel than an SSN.
I would believe it should've been in the bid documents that the hulls would've had to be built to NVR.
From someone more in tune with building construction than ship construction, I can tell you I'd never work again if I bid $200 milllion on a project and then asked the owner half way through construction for another $200 million.
BTW Boats, what percentage does hull and engineering costs figure into a warship vs. the costs of electronics and weapons? I would guess that hull costs should be very low compared to other costs. It's just steel and aluminum, right?
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Looks like the advertised $200 million LCS maybe costing the USN $400 million.
Just more fuel for this fire.
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What the USAF needs and never got was a replacement for the F-111F.
The F-15E is good, but it's getting long in the tooth and isn't stealthly.
Maybe an F-23 on steroids? Or am I the only one that believes the F-35A will replace the Strike Eagle as well as the Fighting Falcon and Warthog?
From what I've read, the SDB will serve the same role in CS as a large artillary shell. Taticically it'll be used for soft targets like vehicles and field artillary pieces.
The large bombs will still be needed for hardened targets like Saddam's palaces.
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The F-117A Nighthawk is being retired to free up funds for the F-22A Raptor.
Evidently, the F-22A will be at least as good a bomber as the F-117 plus be able to fight its way to and from the target.
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The only way we're going to find out how valid this article is, is in a full-scale war against a major oponent like China. Against anything less, US advantages in training, equipment and numbers will make it impossible to tell.
China is exactly who I'm worried about.
In an air campaign, China might prove our match because of weight of numbers. On the land, we're toast again because of numbers.
On the sea, the U.S. is majorly dominant. No one or four comes close.
In a conventional war, Iran, ROK, Syria, or any other boogie men can't touch us. Guerrilla warfare, we're goners because we love our children more than they love their's. They are willing to accept a 1:100 casuality ratio where we can't stomach 1:1.
Unfortunately, guerilla wars are what we're most likely to fight for the immediate future. It doesn't take a gold plated F-22 to deliver 500 lbs JDAMs when a 25 year old F-16 does it nicely and is still as good as anything else flying.
Ultimately, who is the F-22 going to fight in the next ten to fifteen years that a USAF F-16 or F-15 can't take? Even if Fulcrums, Flankers, Typhoons, or Rafales get into the bad guys' hands, are they going to train them, arm them, fight them in greater quantities than the USAF can handle?
And if we do mix it up with China, I doubt it'll stay conventional for too long.
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Lot of fat to chew, Calum.
I never understoof the technical advantage to overcome attrition warfare. We won WWII by outnumbering the Axis in the sea, land, and air.
The prove of the validity of this article will occur when the F-22 is put against a real opponent. Unfortunately, it'll be too late by then.
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Link to article http://www.usatoday.com/news/nation/2006-0...at_x.htm?csp=34
The Navy retired the F-14 Tomcat from active service today. This probably raises memories for some here. It's definitely the end of an era.
So now it's the era of the Hornet and the Super Hornet. Hope they can handle it.
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Welcome to the civilian world!

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The other mistake was with the Be-12 Mail, which the Soviets first built in the early 50's and were using up till the early 90's.
I figured Mike had it with the Moss based on props instead of jets as on the Midas.
As often as I used Mails to persecute 688s in the game, I never figured it as a flying boat.
Good quiz Charles!
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Backfire = cruise missile platform
Bear D = Maritime reconasaince
Midas = AEW
Catalinaski = ASW
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Dedicated light minesweepers are getting tossed for the LCS. Problem is that LCS's draft may be too deep for all mined areas.
I'm seeing a lot of eggs in one basket.
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It ain't pretty, it ain't fast, and you don't need a big watch to fly it. But it sure do deliver the mail, and the troops love to hear it's ugly sounding engines, and it's ugly sounding gun

Boats
Back in the early eighties, on of the first books I read on my own was about military aircraft. Two aircafts pictured were the Warthog and Phantom. I fell in love with them both.

This was the era of the F-15 Eagle which was super clean and belonged on a pad at Cape Canaveral. The F-16 was battle tested over Iraq during this time by the Isrealis, and the Bug was still in development.
Maybe it was the way the Warthog and Phantom were drawn or the colors used, but there was was something magnetic about those two planes. They were the baddest aircraft the USAF had.
Yeah, the Phantom was long in the tooth so needed to go.
This article shows that at least someone at the Idiots 'R' Us in Arlington, VA still thinks a seven year old boy was right!

Thanks Boats!

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They have to rob from current force to pay for future force.
You have to wonder how effective is the "up close and personal" style of warfare LCS fights will be.
With the exception of anti-mine/ AAW/ and NFG for the gator freighters, isn't standing off the enemy's coast and launching cruise missiles and air strikes still the best way to go Forward...from the Sea?
At $350 million a piece for LCS, I'd think the money would be better spent in additional Rhinos or development and deployment of the SM-3.
Unless the Navy is intentionally building a new class of Coast Guard cutters?

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Bad news, Boats.

The USN has ordered Another Little Crappy Ship.
I see these things getting prematurely decomissioned by the Squids and serving with the Puddle Pirates as suppliments to the new class of high endurance cutters.
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Where can I find new HCCE scenarios? In particular ones with mobile plateforms in the IO?
BTW WestPac is great!