Stans Posted November 10, 2011 Report Share Posted November 10, 2011 Penn State College board of trustees has fired Coach Joe Paterno after a record 46 year run as their football head coach. Paterno, 84, had planned on retiring after this season, but after the news broke about a sex scandal about which he had knowledge, the college decided he should leave immediately. It's a sad turn of events for Penn State, their football coaching staff, and for one of college footballs greatest coaches. http://www.usatoday.com/sports/college/football/bigten/story/2011-11-09/Joe-Paterno-fired-Penn-State/51147098/1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Donster Posted November 10, 2011 Report Share Posted November 10, 2011 It had to be. He chose to protect his friends and more protect his legacy. He didn't do anything to help that one little boy in the football players shower, nor did he help the victims who were sodomized later. He could have kept his friend, the child molester off the campus, even after the guy quit, but chose not to. He should have notified the NCAA, but didn't. He foremost should have called the State police, but didn't. All for money and to not loose the power he had at Penn State. A great coach who, much like President Nixon, did all the wrong things to protect himself first. If he would have done the right thing, the moral thing after the first reported to him incident, he would have kept his job, and probably would have had an even bigger legacy. But his own insecurities caused his own downfall. What is so wrong is that Jerry Sandusky, the child molester, was STILL using the football facilities to do his workouts as of last week. He was told back in 2002 or so "just don't bring any kids around the facilities anymore." I do not feel one bit sorry for Paterno. Only the kids his friend sodomized and their families. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gunny Posted November 10, 2011 Report Share Posted November 10, 2011 Even after the incident was brought to his attention the State College Facility is the only one he was banned from. He still conducted his camps at other PSU campuses. I've never liked Paterno but I had until now respected him as a coach. Now I have nothing for the man but disdain. At the VERY least he should have contacted the state police. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Donster Posted November 10, 2011 Report Share Posted November 10, 2011 And of course the stupid students go out and riot last night. Shows how low morals have continued to drop in the world. They should cancel and forefit the rest of the damn football season. No bowl game included. Which means a big financial hit for the school. Unfortunetly, that would hurt all the Big Ten teams, but it would be a small price to pay AFAIK. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Old Guy Posted November 10, 2011 Report Share Posted November 10, 2011 They fired Joe over the phone, which kind of illustrates the character of today's college administrators. It would have been better to have called him in, done the firing, and then held a joint press conference announcing the decision. Based on Joe's past history on this issue, maybe he wouldn't have cooperated. I also have trouble believing that no one in the school administration or on the board didn't know about this sodomist shit-heel a long time ago. Hopefully, the sodomist, the school, and Paterno will have ample opportunity to wish they had done better -- during criminal trials and civil lawsuits. Joe bears responsibility for his past actions and the Penn State board illustrated cowardly behavior all around. Piss ants. All of 'em. OG PS: the students I saw interviewed this morning were protesting the manner of Joe's firing and the way the media had handled the whole affair over the last couple of weeks. The college board could have defused the firing issue by handling it better. The problem of media hype seems to be a constant these days. Our demise as a nation is apparently to be accompanied by hysterical screaming from stage Left. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stans Posted November 11, 2011 Author Report Share Posted November 11, 2011 The actions by the students after his firing is inexcusable. Rioting and destroying property over something like this is a very sad commentary on our society. As for Joe, he was going to receive the Medal of Freedom, but that is now off the table. He is fired in disgrace, his name and reputation forever tarnished. I have had the privilege of working for two universities. I full well know that there is a chain of command that is to be followed, even when you have witnessed or have been a victim of a crime. That being said, universities are not above the law, nor is their chain of command. He witnessed a felony, he reported it to the university, they did nothing. Paterno had a moral and legal obligation to report such crimes to the police if the university did not. In my opinion, this makes Paterno an accessory to the crime. He has not been charged with any crime, but it would not surprise me in the least to see a grand jury indict him as well. The moral of the story: if you witness criminal activity or have knowledge of a crime, you need to do the right thing and go to the police. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gunny Posted November 11, 2011 Report Share Posted November 11, 2011 He didn't witness the crime, his receivers coach McQuery did. McQuery told Paterno, Paterno reported it up the chain. Once he knew the university wasn't going to do anything his next call should have been to the state police. Want to go one further, McQuery should have called the police after he figured the university wasn't going to do anything. What should have been for the kids that were abused turned out to be PSU, it's athletic dept., and the coaching staff from Paterno down protecting itself. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Donster Posted November 11, 2011 Report Share Posted November 11, 2011 McQuery won't be at the game Saturday. The school sighting death threats against McQuery. Shouldn't have been considered to be their anyway. In fact, the interem head coach shouldn't be either. He has been there the whole time this was going on. But they better clean them all out after the season, and NO BOWL GAME this year. My friend in Pittsburgh says that a reporter for the Pittsburgh Gazette has been working on this story for a couple of years, and he is saying that Sandusky was providing young boys to rich men around the school, and other parts of the state from the kids foundation. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stans Posted November 11, 2011 Author Report Share Posted November 11, 2011 Holy cow! Now it's an underage prostitution thing? This just gets sicker and sicker. There is no punishment bad enough for people who do this stuff. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Donster Posted November 11, 2011 Report Share Posted November 11, 2011 Holy cow! Now it's an underage prostitution thing? This just gets sicker and sicker. There is no punishment bad enough for people who do this stuff. First thing that comes to my mind is the Lethal Weapon movie where Riggs gets captured, hung by his wrists, with water running over him, and the asian guy uses a car battery and jumper cables to shock him, trying to make him tell the bad guys what he knows. Of course, that would be just the begining on what Sandusky deserves. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Joker Posted November 12, 2011 Report Share Posted November 12, 2011 The first thing McQuery should have done is rescue the kid from the shower and make sure he was safe. The second thing he should have done is slam Sandusky's head against the wall. The third thing he should have done is dial 911. Telling "Joe Pa" is way down the list. Makes you wonder about McQuery. Makes you wonder about a lot of things. Sick world. People like Paterno don't help. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stans Posted November 12, 2011 Author Report Share Posted November 12, 2011 Yeah, it's got me questioning a lot things, especially organizations for kids and the people that are in contact with those kids. I certainly hope this is an isolated case, but I doubt I'll ever look at these organizations the same way again. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Joker Posted November 14, 2011 Report Share Posted November 14, 2011 I know what you mean, Stans. Sad to say, I'm not sure if I'll let my boy join the Scouts. Too many questions about youth organizations, these days. Makes a parent worry. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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